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Scott Townley's avatar

A solid summary of the subject of Pierre Poillievre's unconscionable, willful, ignorance of the law, and connecting foreign and domestic contributors.

He needs to be called out for his misrepresentation and support of convicted criminals, and for supporting the Donald Trump, MAGA, religious right etc. foreign bodies that supported with money, air time, influence and organization of the 'protest' that had written stated intent to overthrow of the government. Politics is said to be a 'dirty sport' however his antidemocratic behaviour is nothing less than dispicable and potentially treasonous.

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colbycramden's avatar

Essential reading for anyone needing a quick but comprehensive refresher on what led to Canada's FluTruxKlan and how we got there. It's also interesting to recall the online fundraising efforts on both sides of the border were dripping with Christian Nationalist rhetoric, prayers, hopes and dreams.

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Queen Ida's avatar

Your explanation is entirely correct, as usual Dougald. As an ex-peace officer, I concur with your analysis. No matter what T. Bellrose states above, if those two mutton heads are such hardworking people, how did they find the time to organize and attend the illegal Convoy gatherings? And, the same question applies to PP and his political hacks. If he is always working hard for the “common man” like he claims, how does he find the time to hand out coffee and donuts, and schmooze with a bunch of mischief-makers that cost our economy billions of dollars? Along with the aggravation and embarrassment that ill -conceived fuckfest caused our country.

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Punk Rock Pixie's avatar

Poilievre isn't playing stupid, he's playing TO the stupid. He believes Canadians are ignorant sheep who will blindly believe and follow him. He's a freeloading pipsqueak pariah who needs to be kicked out of politics altogether.

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J. Lidtkie's avatar

Great response.

Poilievre is sewing descent and division as is his normal modus operandi . Compare apples and oranges then shouts "unfair".

He's a despicable person.

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Chip Pitfield's avatar

Thank you for this. Poilievre is everything despicable you have described.

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Doug's avatar

Is this simply PP trying to get Maple Maga types back onside after he lost the election and his seat despite a 25 point lead last December?

The guy is a POS and I really hope he somehow loses the by election too.

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Harry069 🇨🇦's avatar

I can only hope that this article receives wider distribution so that more and more Canadians are made aware of the deviants and scoundrels who have set about to highjack a country in the name of their perverted ‘God’.

As for Poilievre, I vote for the stupidest and most dishonest politician award. Add to that a generous portion of blind ambition and desperation and you have an extremely dangerous individual.

Canadians need to pay attention and remain on guard. Media must continue to expose the perverted nature of the Conservatives and their amoral ambitions to turn Canada into the 51st State of the failed country called America.

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Stan's avatar

Remember folks this is an opportunity to block whoever is providing idiot responses here. Don’t let whatever motivates them take you longer than a quick block.

Great article.

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Chris Fehr's avatar

I thought at the time that the convoy was going to tank the conservatives chances in the next election but as it got closer I was willing to admit I was wrong and then the voters proved my first instincts were right. If only PP could have the same moment of clarity.

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Bob's avatar

So seven years is an appropriate sentencing for a person that’s charged for mischief, but Manpreet Gill got 5 1/2 months for robbing a liquor store, driving the wrong way down the freeway and killing four people, including a baby. Yeah you morons keep hating on Pierre because he’s not a liberal.

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Dougald Lamont's avatar

Why don’t you read the article before you shoot your mouth off? You clearly haven’t, or you would know that criminal mischief is a term for destroying other’s property or people access to it.

If criminal mischief puts other people’s safety or lives in danger, the sentence is up to life in prison. Read the article then comment.

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Bob's avatar

The punishment does not fit the crime is all I’m saying. How do two people that never physically harmed anyone deserve seven years when a person kills four people and they get 5 1/2 months. I realize what they did is technically a crime but seven years for it is bullshit and when did I say there is no blockades. maybe you’re reading comprehension is not very good. And Canada‘s criminal punishments are bullshit for most things like I said 5 1/2 months for killing four people. And how exactly does Chris Barber and Tamara lich have anything to do with the Coutts. Border crossing, they were not there. they were also not at Windsor. Maybe those people should be charged. The judge also said that the protest was legal as long as they stopped, honking their horns. And what reckless and dangerous behaviour are you referring to or like I said is this what the CBC told you. And what vandalism was there. or like I said is this all because they’re conservatives.

If you’re so against blocking roads and vandalism, and so on and so forth, are you writing letters about the Palestine protest. I would think you’re not because they’re not conservatives and there’s been many many cases of vandalism and blocking of roads that stopped ambulances and firetrucks from proceeding. Did you write letters about the black live matter protests that caused millions and millions of dollars worth of damage all over North America. Did you think some of those should get seven years?. no, you only write letters like this because they are conservatives. Maybe you should try writing some articles about the liberal party and then I might believe your bullshit. so I’ll bid you farewell because this is dumb and I’m not gonna do it anymore.

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Bob's avatar

Serious crimes, such as murders which people nowadays get less prison time than what the convoy people are gonna get. and if you’re not bothered by the fact that the person only got 5 1/2 months and Tamara lich and Chris Barber should get seven years. says a lot about you. But then again you are a liberal. were you there to witness so-called blockages you talk about. Or was that the Trudeau liberals telling you that. In my comprehension level is fine. I just don’t agree with your bullshit.

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Dougald Lamont's avatar

Dude, I'm not the one defending convicted criminals. You are. I'm not the one saying that Canada's criminal punishments are too harsh. You are. I'm not the one denying that there were blockades, when they were on the news on every outlet, including Rebel News. The people at Coutts were willing to shoot cops. That's been determined by the courts. I cite news articles that confirm that elderly patients in Manitoba had their access to health care restricted and medical supplies were cut off. There was a massive blockade at Windsor, and the occupation protest in Ottawa itself was unlawful, and included plenty of reckless and dangerous behaviour as well as flat-out vandalism.

I am not the one justifying and minimizing crimes or defending convicted criminals. You are the one doing that. And so is Pierre Poilievre.

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Bob's avatar

So what people’s property did they destroy. And what people6 safety or lives were in danger. And you honestly think seven years in prison for somebody that did no damage did no harm did not put peoples lives in danger is the same as a guy that kills four people and a baby after robbing, a liquor store that only gets 5 1/2 months. Is just or is it because these people are conservatives and you are a liberal.

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Dougald Lamont's avatar

I’ve addressed this in full, and in detail. I’m not going to cut and paste from my own article because you can’t be bothered to read it.

Read the article, then comment.

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Bob's avatar

You didn’t answer my question whether you think seven years is just for a mischief charge and 5 1/2 months for killing four people including a baby is the appropriate amount. And I’d like to know you didn’t say what property was destroyed and what access did people not have. And just for your info I did read that fucking garbage you wrote. like I said it’s all because you’re a liberal and you do not like the conservatives.

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Dougald Lamont's avatar

Then you either have severe reading or comprehension difficulties.

Did you miss the part where occupation protestors blocked multiple borders, the area around the Manitoba Legislature and Ottawa, for days on end, depriving people and businesses from access to their property and hindering their freedom of movement? When parking a truck or slowing traffic on a highway is a crime under the criminal code? Where they ignored court orders, which is illegal? Where people were being blocked from getting to a hospital, and where essential medical supplies - specifically a nutritional supplement for sick newborns and cancer patients - were being held up at the border? Where hundreds of millions of dollars a day in trade were being lost? Where 911 lines were being jammed, putting anyone who needed real help from police or ambulances were at risk? It was a foreign funded protest by people who were demanding the overthrow of the government, while they pissed on war memorials? Where dozens and dozens of people have been charged and convicted of offenses including intimidation, threats, and weapons offenses?

Did you miss the part where I explained that “mischief” is a crime that, despite its name, can carry a life sentence as punishment?

I explained exactly why this case is so serious, and you want to keep minimizing it by defending these convicted criminals, because you support their politics. That’s not principled. That’s hypocrisy and corruption.

The whole problem here is that you are incapable of seeing this outside of a partisan lens, which explains your shoehorning a completely different case into it. You’re practicing “whataboutism” in order to change the subject.

Your argument appears to be that since a criminal involved in a fatal car crash that killed a family didn’t get the sentence that you think is appropriate, that the courts should go easy on people whose serious crimes you want to minimize.

Is that what you’re arguing? That because someone who killed four people got a light sentence, everyone should too? Is that your “tough on crime” solution?

As I pointed out in the article, if you’ve got a problem with the charges and convictions in another case, while the Criminal Code is Federal, enforcement - from police through the courts - is provincial, and so are highways. So complain to Doug Ford.

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Stacey's avatar

I've got family who think this guy is the bees knees.

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TAYLORE BELLROSE's avatar

It is hypocritical to apply and applaud this kind of sentence to two hard-working Canadians who are protesting a violation of their rights, while at the same time finding it acceptable for criminals with guns and knives should be released back into the streets on the same day. That was my point.

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Dougald Lamont's avatar

All the points you have made were directly addressed and contradicted in in the article with facts and evidence. It’s clear that you haven’t read it.

Read the article then comment.

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Punk Rock Pixie's avatar

Your ridiculous bias and/or lack of understanding of the law and the 2 Canadians in question makes your statement impossible to take seriously

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TAYLORE BELLROSE's avatar

Keep Propagating the propaganda, only half of Canadians are listening. You have violence against elderly and young people on the street walking free yet a peaceful protest against violation of human Rights, which was deemed unconstitutional is worthy of a jail sentence? This country doesn't get turned right side up again. Soon half of us will be leaving it... Good luck to the rest of you affording your half. What a disgusting article!

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Scott Townley's avatar

I see that you didn't read the article otherwise you'd engage in discussion to prove what he said was wrong. Why don't you save everyone time, particularly yourself, and comment when you have something concrete to add.

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